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Her daughter could do no wrong

Her daughter could do no wrong

So here’s my experience with co-parenting.. wondering if anyone else has same experience. Her and myself were both single parents to daughters. We got together when they were 2 and 4.  My daughter had rules and expectations and was disciplined. Her daughter lived with no rules and no discipline and could do no wrong in her mother’s eyes, was held to no expectations or responsibility. If at any time I tried to discipline her daughter or raised concerns I became the enemy and was met with screaming in my face, threats, name calling etc. She would use me to threaten her daughter at times to get her way. It was always like being two different households under the same roof. Anytime my ex was mad at me she would make up wild stories about my daughter or treat my daughter with disdain…in the end her daughter at 13 was into drugs, criminal behaviour, sex, never going to school. Mine went on to good grades, private college, no troubles…anyone else experience this?

Why does he blame me so much?

Why does he blame me so much?

They say actions speak louder than words .  But now I doubt actions as even they can be deceitful .. a person tells you they love you then says he only acted lovingly towards me because, “that’s what he does.”

I’ve been told I’m insecure and I cause him to walk around on egg shells, yet when I got called dopey because I make toasted sandwiches differently to him I got told he is only joking and I take things to heart too much.

What is happening as I’m confused as to what and why it was happening…  He is a nice guy so why does he blame me for so much?

I’m so hurt

I’m so hurt

Hi, I am in a mess. My property manager is a narcissist.  I put in paperwork to get a comfort animal the last week of March. She told me it takes the owner months to get one. She kept asking if I had a cat, I said no, I follow the rules. So I call cooperate yesterday and the have no record of her sending it. And it takes about a week! The lady at cooperate emailed her and told her to send it again. I am so hurt, upset and confused why someone would do this?
Thanks for listening.

The Online Creeper

The Online Creeper

Some narcissists will use social media to get attention. Others will use the likes of Facebook and Instagram to stalk, creep and keep an eye on you, your family and what you’re doing. There’s a big difference between nosiness and fixation. Narcissists don’t like to lose control, let go and they struggle to come to terms with the fact that you have moved on with your life. They find it almost impossible to keep their nose out of your business and their spying may become obsessive. This type of behaviour is not normal by a long shot.

These online creepers have problems in their own lives that they need to address. Unfortunately they will rarely see a problem with their conduct. Mentally stable individuals who have happily moved on with their lives will have no desire to creep online. They don’t want to see what people who are no longer a part of their circle are up to.

It doesn’t matter how much time has elapsed since you last had any form of contact with these paranoid individuals. Their crazy behaviour may last for many years.

Most of the time this online creeping often will go unnoticed by the person being watched. However, sometimes these online sneaks slip up and leave a trace. They accidentally hit a like button, realise their stupid mistake and quickly hit the button again hoping to remove all traces that they’ve been watching you. Alas, it doesn’t work that way. They’ve been found out.

(Yes, after five years this little scenario was played out yesterday by my ex-partner’s son who was obviously slithering online like a snake hoping that he wouldn’t be observed. And yes, he slipped up, hit the like button and then quickly tried to unlike it. Too late, you were caught.)

For some, online creeping may turn into something much more sinister such as continual stalking and harassment which I will cover in another article.

In the meantime, if you want to keep your life private, keep your profile locked down and keep those little online creepers in the dark.

Written by Anne McCrea

Narcissistic and Emotional Abuse, Shattering the Illusion is now available on Amazon.

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Your Life With A Narcissist

Your Life With A Narcissist

No one comes out of a relationship with a narcissist unscathed. Some people will live with those deep scars for a lifetime while others will learn about Narcissistic Personality Disorder, realise that these individuals are dysfunctional human beings who have little or no regard for the people they harm and exploit and they’ll know that their lives will be so much better when these people are no longer a part of it.

Some people on this page have decided to share their experiences of how their lives have been touched in one way or another by a narcissist.

I’ve cut contact with my narc mother for the last two months because she started to abuse me with one of her rages and I’ve realised I don’t have to take it, but more importantly that I just can’t take it any more. As for sharing parts of my abuse as a child, there were many hideous instances, the main being that she just ignored my existence. When she wasn’t spitting out verbal abuse it loved my two brothers. She tried to marry me off at 16 to a family friend that I didn’t even like to get rid of me out of the house. But now in her old age she expects me to take her into my house. Not happening. This is just a tiny insight into the abuse I had to endure my entire childhood and life.

Recently split from my partner after 9 years of hell and manipulation. He was leading a double life pretending to be something that he wasn’t a caring family man. First he said he was separated from his wife but he wasn’t after a short time of meeting he moved in with me as I was recently divorced had 3 bedroom house and expensive car bought and paid for and money in the bank but not for long, over the years he sponged off me and kept disappearing. Then I found emails he was meeting people for sex and when I confronted him he cried and said he was sorry and that a friends emails had got mixed up with his. It was a lie, one of hundreds of lies that were to follow. He slit his wrists, had me arrested for trying to kill him but the police didn’t believe him and he was thrown out of my house. He was removed from my house in total 14 times and social services threatened to take my children. Every time I tried to get rid of him he came back, broke into the house or got in my car. The violence got worse. He tried to strangle me and I was sick after he let go of my throat. I sold my house and moved but he came with me, bad mouthed me to everyone so the neighbours distanced themselves from me. He killed my animals and trashed my car and said the neighbours had done it. Eventually I escaped by help from my neighbours and the police were called I am currently under police protection and restraining order for a year I’ve been left with a mountain to climb but already I feel better not being criticised every day and not having to walk on eggshells.

Kept quoting bits and pieces of scripture to make me think I was going against the Bible if I didn’t do as I was told by my husband. That’s what wives are supposed to do, right.

My mother put me down at every opportunity. If I disagreed with her about anything I was punished, smacked and ignored. Her verbal abuse was something I got used to through the years. My sister was never given the same treatment. She was the apple of my mum’s eye and never did anything wrong in her eyes. Me, on the other hand, I was the one who got blamed for everything. She made me feel worthless and I grew up believing she was right. I stumbled upon your page and everything made sense. I wasn’t the problem. She was. I’ve learned so much. I now know that she isn’t going to change and my sister has grown up just like her. I’ve cut contact with them both and life is so much better. I’ve been to counselling and read other people’s stories. You’ll never know how much that helped. I’m not alone. I know my worth and will never let anyone put me down again.

I got the silent treatment for weeks on end. Would then walk back in my life as if nothing happened and I like a fool kept taking him back. I hate myself for my stupidity.

I’ve been abused by my adult son. I gave him everything I could when he was a child, maybe too much. I went without so that he could have the childhood I never had but it’s all backfired. If he doesn’t get what he wants, he rages until somebody gives in for peace and quiet. He’s told me he wishes I was dead and to be honest sometimes I wish I was too. I know I should cut him out of my life but I can’t bring myself to do it.

I grew up in a dysfunctional family. My father was controlling and my mother an alcoholic. He probably drove her to drink. When things didn’t go his way or he didn’t get the adoration he thought he deserved we were treated with the silent treatment sometimes for weeks at a time and his icy glares, they were something else. At times I just wanted to crawl into a hole and never come out. When he thought we had been punished enough he would start talking to us again as if nothing had happened. We never questioned his behaviour. We knew better than that. As he’s got older his behaviour has got worse. I have very little to do with him now. He is a very sad and lonely old man and he’s brought it all on himself.

He made me quit my job telling me that I needed to be with the kids. I’d no money with him controlling every cent. I was stuck with no way out.

I’ve been to hell and back with the woman I loved with all my heart. I did everything for her, tried to make her happy but nothing I did was enough. When things didn’t go her way, the only way, she was the devil in disguise. No one saw this side of her but me. To everyone else I was a lucky man, lucky to have found someone who was so attractive and obviously crazy about me. If only they knew. What they saw was a far cry from what I saw. She was smart. She never let anyone else see that horrible side to her personality. That pleasure was for me and me alone. No one who hasn’t been there will understand. She managed to bring me to my knees, begging her not to leave even though I knew that leaving me was the best thing she could have done for me. She turned everyone against me, people who I thought were my friends but she got there first with her lies and they believed her. I found out the hard way that people who I thought were friends weren’t. They didn’t want to hear my side of the story, they had heard her side and formed their own opinions. People are so judgemental and gullible. Those people aren’t my friends any more. They’re shallow. I have learned so much in such a short time thanks to this page. I was dying inside until I found it. I thought I was the only one going through this shit. Now I know I’m not. These people are everywhere, destroying people’s lives and getting away with it. She nearly destroyed mine but thankfully I’ve learned. I don’t trust easily. It is going to take a hell of a lot for anyone to earn my trust. I don’t know if I ever want to fall in love with any woman again. This hurt too much and I don’t know that I could go through it again. If they’re too good to be true at the start, there is probably a reason. Learn about these soul destroyers before they destroy your life.

I’ve cut contact with my family because they are only family by blood. Proper family don’t treat family like they treated me all my life. It took me a lifetime to realise that my family wasn’t a normal one. I was put down by my mum and dad from as far back as I can remember. I was the reason that they had no money. I was the reason that they rowed. If I wasn’t around, their life would have been so much better. They gave up everything for me and I never deserved any of it. I grew up believing I was a worthless piece of shit because they told me I was. Who was I to argue? I didn’t expect anything from anyone and I never thought I deserved to be loved by anyone. I’m in therapy now to change my perception of who I am.

She had me feeling sorry for her because of her previous boyfriend. She told me how he treated her so badly and I wanted to show her that all men weren’t like that and take care of her. Then when she got my heart she showed me how cold hers was. The discard was brutal.

I worked in an office for three years, was well thought of by bosses and colleagues until a new start came into the office. She was ever so pleasant and charming at first, trying very hard to be liked by everyone. She would bring in buns for everyone at coffee break. Within a short time she was inviting people to her home for drinks. Everyone liked her but I had my doubts. I noticed she would copy the way I dressed and some of the things I said. I noticed she took credit for others work when they weren’t around. Once or twice I pointed this out in the nicest possible way. I became arch enemy no 1. She did everything in her power to turn my colleagues against me. She told lies behind my back and sabotaged my work. What hurt me the most was how easily my colleagues accepted her stories and one by one they turned against me. If I defended myself, I was being bitchy, vengeful and vindictive. Eventually I couldn’t face going to work, went off sick and resigned. I have heard that she started on someone else after I left and I believe that people saw her for what she was. I’m glad about that but it was too late for me.

Married forty years to an emotionally abusive controlling man. He was jealous of my friends and cut me off from everyone over the years. He was jealous of the attention I gave my dog so he killed him. He talked down to me, yelled at me, went into mad rages and sometimes ignored me. Our children are grown now and have disowned their father. They saw him for what he was and encouraged me to leave and make a life for myself. I’m so glad I took their advice after defending him for years and blaming myself for the way he was. He always blamed me and I started to believe he was right. I’ve suffered ill health for years, all I believe as a result of years of stress. I’m gradually getting my health back and the stress is gone. My biggest regret is that I stayed too long with a monster. To any of you out there reading this, don’t make the same mistakes I did. Your life is too short. Get out while you can, while you still have a life ahead of you.

Lived a double life. Told me he was away on business when he was cheating. Lied all the time to cover his tracks and make me believe him and I did like a fool.

My husband was the perfect gent when I met him, showering me with love and affection. Of course I thought I had met my soulmate and he proposed within a few months. We were married within 8 months and it was on our honeymoon that I first glimpsed a side of him I’d never seen before. He talked down to me. He huffed when everything didn’t go the way that he wanted them to. He gave me the silent treatment, ignoring me until I would plead with him to talk to me again. I kept apologising in case I had said something wrong. Yes, I grovelled for his forgiveness just so things would be normal again. And they were, for a short while. These periods of normalcy never lasted long. There was always something that he didn’t like and always an excuse to put me down. My head was in a mess. I couldn’t figure out what had happened to the lovely man I had fallen for. I wanted to please him. I would have done anything to please him but nothing did. He was the perfect husband when we were in public but a different man when we got home. I lived like this for 15 years, my health slowly deteriorating, both physical and mental. I lost many of my friends because he didn’t like them but managed to hold on to one who saw what was going on. She told me to Google the word, Narcissist. That was a light bulb moment. The descriptions I read were my husband to a T. Eventually I packed my stuff and left. It was the only thing I could do to save myself. It took me a long time of soul searching and therapy but I have recovered. I am the person who I used to be. I’m on my own now and it’s bliss.

Some people stay in relationships with a narcissist waiting and hoping for change that will never come.

I have yet to hear of a malignant narcissist changing for the better over the long term.

Anne McCrea

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Adult Children of Narcissists


A narcissist loves to provoke a reaction from you, especially in public. They will provoke you into responding in an angry or emotional manner. (Your angry response is further evidence of your unbalanced state of mind).


The black sheep is blamed for just about everything that goes wrong within the dysfunctional family. They can’t do anything right. Their achievements are not recognized by the narcissistic parent and are swept under the carpet.


Boundaries are a code of conduct or an unwritten set of rules which we consider to be reasonable behaviour from those around us and our response when someone steps over the line.


Closure in a normal relationship involves open and honest communication about what has gone wrong, you then wish each other well, say goodbye and move on. After a relationship with a narcissist ends you are left with so many questions and no answers. It feels like the book has been closed before the story has ended. We cannot expect any form of closure from the emotionally immature narcissist who is completely lacking in empathy, and has no regard for your feelings. The only closure in this type of relationship is the closure you give yourself.


The individual characteristics vary from person to person. Some of the more common characteristics would include trying to avoid making decisions, preferring to rely on others. Co-dependents are often perfectionists who tend to put the needs of others above their own, which results in them feeling needed. Unfortunately, co-dependents often stay in relationships that are emotionally destructive or abusive.


A narcissist will dismiss or nullify their target’s thoughts, feelings or experiences and make them feel that they are wrong to hold such feelings or thoughts.


Cognitive dissonance occurs when one holds two or more contradictory beliefs or values at the same time.

Sometimes people hold very strong beliefs and when they are presented with evidence which opposes those beliefs, they find it impossible to accept this evidence. Dissonance is often strong when we go against our own moral standards, for example, if someone believes that they are a good person and goes ahead and does something wrong or bad, the feelings of guilt and discomfort are known as cognitive dissonance.


Deception by speaking or acting in two different ways to different people about the same subject. Dishonest behaviour.


Dissociation from mild to moderate is a detachment from reality, usually in the case of abuse. It is a defence mechanism.


A target of abuse is denied the right to hold their own feelings. For example, being told that you are much too sensitive or have no sense of humour, thereby invalidating your reality.


Emotional abuse may be referred to as psychological violence or mental abuse, which involves subjecting someone to behaviour which may result in psychological distress or trauma such as chronic depression, stress, anxiety and post-traumatic stress disorder.


An enabler is someone who, by their action or inaction, encourages or enables a pattern of behaviour to continue, or removes the consequences of bad behaviour.


False guilt is guilt that someone places on themselves because of their perceived failures or inadequacies. If they have not broken a ‘moral law’ and feel guilty, this is known as false guilt.


Narcissists love to be admired and receive compliments, so they assume that everyone needs this too. They will tell you that you are special, no one can understand them like you do and put you on a pedestal. I’m not saying that you are not special but don’t be fooled by their compliments. They are all part of the game!


The narcissist creates a false image of his or herself. This image is not a reflection of their true character. They will display this image to impress and mislead others, knowing that their real self, the person who they really are, is not likely to impress anyone. This false image is not likely to be maintained for a lengthy period of time.


The narcissist often pretends that they need you. This makes you feel good about yourself, an important part of their lives. You are important to them for as long as you give them the attention they need, but replaceable when you don’t.


Flying monkeys are people who have been convinced by the narcissist that he or she is the real victim. They inflict further harm on the real victim by submitting to the narcissist’s wishes and demands. They may threaten, torment, discredit or add fuel to a smear campaign by spreading lies and gossip.


Gas-lighting is a manipulative tactic where a mentally healthy individual is subjected to conditioning behaviour so that they doubt their own sanity. The target starts to believe that their perception of reality is false. The narcissist may simply deny saying something didn’t happen when in fact, it did, telling you that you heard wrong or lie about an event or situation. Over time a victim starts to think they are confused and going crazy. They come to rely more and more on the narcissist to keep them right.


The golden child can do no wrong, will be encouraged to do well and be given the best of everything. The narcissistic parent will celebrate even their most minor achievements whilst their faults and failings are swept under the carpet. This child may receive special treatment for being the perfect child and for doing everything that their parent wishes.


An unrealistic sense of superiority. A grandiose narcissist sees themselves as better than others and views other people with disdain.


Grey rock is a term used to describe your behaviour when trying to cut contact with a narcissist. The aim is to be utterly boring so that the narcissist no longer sees you as good supply and subsequently disappears. Grey Rock differs from no contact in that you don’t avoid the narcissist. Instead you keep contact, albeit to a minimum, but keep your responses so extremely boring that the narcissist will see you as a poor source of supply. Your aim is to blend into the background, become  insignificant and be as boring as you can possibly be. Talk about the most boring topics you can imagine such as ironing, doing the laundry or how you enjoy watching paint dry. No-one wants to be in the company of boring people and the narcissist is no different.


The term hoovering, derived from the Hoover vacuum cleaner, describes how a narcissist attempts to suck their victims back into a relationship. They will use every trick in the book to get you back under their power and control. Hoovering often takes place after you have left them or after a period of the silent treatment. They promise to change their behaviour or say that they have already changed dramatically.


Invalidation is a manipulative tactic used to get a target to believe that their thoughts, opinions and beliefs are wrong, unimportant or don’t matter.


Love bombing is a term used to describe the typical initial stages of a relationship with a narcissistic personality, in which the narcissist goes all out to impress their target with flattery, holidays, promises of a future together, having the target believe that they have met their perfect partner, their soulmate.


A narcissist will mirror what they see in you from your mannerisms to your dress sense, your behaviour and your likes and dislikes. They basically become just like you.


A narcissistic injury can be described as any perceived slight, threat or criticism, whether real or in the narcissist’s imagination, which they view as an insult, an act of rejection or disagreement.


Narcissistic rage is a narcissist’s reaction to a narcissistic injury, usually a rather aggressive response which may be likened to a child’s temper tantrum. This outward display of rage is normally directed towards whoever the narcissist feels has been the cause of their hurt. On occasion, the rage can be directed towards themselves, where they take the criticism and turn it inward, so they feel a sense of shame and depression.


A narcissist is lost without narcissistic supply. They need supply like a plant needs water. Supply consists of attention, admiration, respect, adulation and even fear. However, it should be noted that a narcissist can draw on negative supply such as detestation and hatred. Without these vital nutrients of life, the narcissist will become dysfunctional.


No contact is put in place by a victim to give themselves time to recover. It is not, in any way, like the narcissist’s silent treatment. A narcissist who initiates the silent treatment is doing so as a punishment and to exert power and control.

No contact is a self-imposed set of rules whereby there will be absolutely no contact with the toxic person. (No texts, no emails, no phone calls, no snooping on social media). It has been likened to building a wall between you and a toxic individual. You will not care or even be aware of what happens on the other side of this wall.

(Minimal contact is advised in circumstances where one has to co-parent with a narcissist).


A narcissist is an expert at projecting their own character flaws or bad behaviour onto others.

They will go to any lengths to avoid being held accountable for any wrong doing and will blame others for the very things that they do themselves. The main objective is to make themselves feel superior, displace responsibility and place it on the shoulders of their unsuspecting target.


They may promise to keep you safe from the world. This may make you feel dependent on them for your own safety.


Rumination can be described as a chain of repetitive thoughts which focus your attention on the symptoms of your distress, personal loss, depression and/or anxiety. Instead of focusing on solutions, your focus is drawn to the possible causes and consequences. Healthy alternatives to rumination are positive distractions, things that take your mind off your problems.


The scapegoat is someone (or group of people) who is unfairly blamed for the wrongdoings, failures, mistakes and faults of others. A child in a family may be singled out and subjected to unwarranted negative treatment.


Self-esteem is the overall judgement one holds about their own self-worth, including pride in oneself, self-respect and self-assurance.


There’s a reason for everything a narcissist does. If they do something for you, they will remind you somewhere down the line. They will want something from you in return.


This term comes from a real-life hostage situation where several of the hostages became emotionally attached to their kidnappers (The Stockholm Syndrome). Trauma bonding is a misplaced loyalty where a victim is emotionally bonded with their abuser and finds themselves unable to leave an unhealthy or dangerous relationship. The victim remains loyal to someone who has betrayed them time and time again.


Narcissists thrive on chaos. They provoke rivalry and jealousy between people, creating triangles to boost their own ego.


The vulnerable narcissist has a very low self-esteem and is constantly on the look-out for proof of their worthiness. This type of narcissist hides behind a mask which masks their deep- seated feelings of insecurity and self-doubt. They are haunted by fears of rejection and abandonment.

Written by Anne McCrea

Narcissistic and Emotional Abuse, Shattering the Illusion is now available on Amazon.

Can they become a narcissist?

Can they become a narcissist?

Can a victim of someone who claims to have been abused by a narcissistic person become a narcissist themselves?

It seems that it happened to me but looking back it appears that she displayed the traits of a narcissist. Always about her appearance and always making comments about all these guys wanting her. To me that seems to be someone who needs that constant praise and self worth.



The term Gaslighting originates from a 1938 play “Gaslight” and its 1944 film adaptation, in which a husband tries to make his wife believe that she is insane by using manipulative tactics.

A narcissist will use a very effective, persistent form of psychological abuse known as gaslighting to gain power and instil confusion and anxiety in their target.

Gaslighting is an insidious process that occurs over a period of time, resulting in the person being gaslighted questioning their own reality and/or sanity.  They will no longer feel that they can trust their own judgement and memory.  When someone’s recollections of events are constantly put in doubt, it is inevitable that they will wonder if their own version of events is indeed correct.  Their self-esteem and confidence will plummet, and they will start to believe that they can’t function independently, finding it difficult to make decisions.  Anyone is susceptible to this form of abuse, which is akin to brainwashing.

How is this achieved?

Snide comments and a little lie here and there will more than likely go unnoticed.  As time passes, these will escalate and even the smartest, mentally stable person can fall prey to such manipulative tactics.  They will find themselves being reminded of their shortcomings and weaknesses so that they feel there is something wrong with them and they become so grateful to have the narcissist in their life.  Lies become the norm so that they have no idea what are lies and what is the truth.  When lies are so utterly convincing, they will inevitably doubt their own perceptions.

‘If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes accepted as the truth.’

To add fuel to the fire, the narcissist who is trying to wear you down will throw in a little praise now and then.  Now you are more confused.  You must have got it wrong.  They’re not so bad after all.  It must be you getting things twisted.

The intermittent put downs and praise increases your anxiety and stress.  You’re walking on egg shells in an attempt to please, but whatever you do, it’s never quite right.  They will continue to ridicule you and point out your flaws.  You find yourself always on the defensive and apologizing when you’ve done nothing wrong.  In your mind, you must have upset them, so it must be your fault!

Isolation is another one of their ploys.  When they have succeeded in isolating you from friends or family through, yes, you’ve guessed it, more lies, you will feel that you have no one you can trust except the person who you can trust the least, the narcissist. You are insecure and in a weak position, just where they want you, confused and isolated.

The manipulator may relate a story, leaving out certain information.  When they convince their target that they told them specific details of which the victim has no recollection, they will start to think that they are losing their memory and their mind.

The gaslighter will question their target’s sanity to just about anyone who will listen.  If there comes a time in the future when the target should decide to talk to others about the narcissist’s abusive tactics, why should anyone believe them when they know that this person is unbalanced and unstable?  Remember that the narcissist is such a convincing liar, and often appears to be so very charming in public, that their ‘listening ears’ find no reason to doubt them.  Who do people turn to for the right information?  Certainly not the person being gaslighted.

Typically, in this type of relationship, the person who is being manipulated will defend the behaviour of the abusive personality.  They often feel embarrassed and ashamed and blame themselves for the narcissist’s behaviour.  ‘If I hadn’t done……., he wouldn’t have behaved the way he did.’   ‘She doesn’t really mean it.’

Once the target recognizes what is happening it is vital for them to understand that they will never stand on safe ground around this person.  It is like walking on shifting sand.  The narcissist will never take responsibility for their behaviour.

Anyone who has been subjected to this form of abuse will almost certainly need counselling to build themselves back up to who they once were.  A strong support system will work wonders.  The feelings of self-doubt and low self-esteem will pass.

Written by Anne McCrea

Narcissistic and Emotional Abuse, Shattering the Illusion is now available on Amazon.


If you don’t give me what I want I’ll make sure your life’s hell

If you don’t give me what I want I’ll make sure your life’s hell

Has anyone else felt that their abusers turn to their church home or and huge ministries for prayers, pointing the fingers, blaming everyone else but themselves?  Narcs are always victims, we’re of the devil simply because we won’t be their financial spiritual mental door mats of toxicity, we’re supposed to fight basically prove we’re worth to be loved, respected basically be miserable on the account of people who really don’t care and only hear one side have no experience or
understanding of any types of abuse & basically it’s like narc can mentally emotional financial spiritual physically hurt  and abuse their family, hate blame others & start hate groups, if they just happen to get their stuff together.   We owe them our lives, have to reconcile but they’ve never had to suffer what or any judgements or karma! It’s like I can stab you blame you and look I even called for help, I’m actually good you have no choices if you don’t give me what I want I’ll make sure your life’s hell
and slander your name playing the victim blame game and I’m always


We are alone in our grief.

We are alone in our grief.

How do others handle the lack of support over the loss of their adult son/daughter due to their offspring staying in a narcissistic marriage?

Often the son/daughter has no clue that their spouse is narcissistic (unless they have prior experience and are educated in narcissistic PD). The NPD spouse is very manipulative, fooling their partner that they met the perfect match and then over time whittling away their partner’s friends and family members while convincing their partner that those friends and family are the problem. And it’s difficult to see a once loving parent-offspring relationship turn into the parents being cruelly treated and then blamed for the cruelty. And then the son/daughter and their NPD spouse play the victims and victim blame while increasing the maltreatment and distancing of the parents and siblings because they voiced their dislike of how they’re being mistreated.

People who’ve lost a son/daughter, brother, sister, or grandchild because of death are allowed to share their grief and have support from others. They get extra support  on the birthdays, holidays, and dates related to the deceased. They can post about their loss, share memories and their continued times of missing their loved one. However, those who’ve lost their son/daughter, brother/sister, or grandchild who is still alive, yet no longer have contact because of their son’s/daughter’s narcissistic spouse have no such support. And they’re constantly reminded of how alone they are in their grief every time they see the outpouring of love and support for those with a deceased loved one. And due to social norms parents who lost their son/daughter due to the SIL/DIL’s narcissistic manipulation, controlling, scapegoating, gaslighting and other abusive behaviours are expected to keep silent about the abuse that led to the loss.

Do others share with Facebook friends their story of such loss due to NPD? Does a wider audience other than your closest friends and immediate family know that you lost a son/daughter/grandchild due to the NPD? Or do you keep silent in fear of being further blamed because the NPD has been trash taking you, making up lies in their scapegoating of you? Our NPD DIL has raged and lied so much that we won’t be alone with her and our son ever again. We no longer see our son and grandchildren, there’s no contact. We lost the son we knew, and will ever know our grandchildren, yet are alone in our grief, and no one says “so sorry for your loss” and no one shares good memories of him before he was forever changed and gone.

So, is there a grief support group for such parents and siblings? If not there should be. And I’m asking for something more than informative and supportive NPD Facebook groups (very helpful groups) because they’re not a good location for this needed support since the posts/comments can be seen by others like the NPD and their flying monkey enablers which then adds fuel to the fire.

Thanks for the help.